I'm thinking about adding a credits system to encourage more activity here, it would set up be able to award credits on posts, topics, stories, reviews, any thing find to be worth giving credits for.
only I can't think of much for what the credits could be used for besides of the very basic things it comes with.
whats yall guys thoughts on it.
well what are the basic things it comes with?
also, it sounds like a nice idea
well I've when ahead and added it, you can check out the shop for more details.
any ways still need ideas for new items. and maybe something different to call the credits, and any changes to the basic items already in shop
also you can only earn credits in the forums right now, earning them on the rest of the site is something I'm going to edit in myself when I have the time.
also I've given authors, site story authors, global mods, and admin, some credits to play with.
where exactly is the shop, i can't seem to find it anywhere >_<
I can only say, Duce, that if you deny services to anyone based on low credits, be prepared for lots and lots of complaints. People hate being denied porn and fanfics. >_<;
Maybe we could use this credits system to create a more formalized way of doing trades that would prevent the kind of stuff that made yarr so frustrated. You could commission a story from an author (or a picture from an artist, although there aren't as many of those on the forum) for an agreed amount of credits, and then the author could use the credits to buy a commission either from someone else. That way, people wouldn't be arguing about whether or not they "owe" anyone anything because there would be a tangible (well, not really tangible, but at least visible) reminder that a transaction took place.
Only problem I can foresee is that some jerks might try to spam posts or make otherwise worthless or poor quality posts to earn enough credits to commission a story/picture. I don't think any of our regulars would do this, but it's possible some unscrupulous newcomer might try to cheat the system in this way.
In that case, I think the only way to counteract that would be to make the fee prohibitively high, say 300 credits, so that it's very difficult for anyone to buy a story without getting payed for writing one.
Well, that's the first thing that came to mind anyway. What does everyone else think of this system?
Quote from: Anime Lover on August 11, 2009, 07:04:43 AM
where exactly is the shop, i can't seem to find it anywhere >_<
the link is up there next to the "my messages" link
but exactly it's here SHOP (http://nyou.animegirldesp.org/forum/index.php?action=shop)
Quote from: Toasty on August 11, 2009, 04:46:18 PM
Maybe we could use this credits system to create a more formalized way of doing trades that would prevent the kind of stuff that made yarr so frustrated. You could commission a story from an author (or a picture from an artist, although there aren't as many of those on the forum) for an agreed amount of credits, and then the author could use the credits to buy a commission either from someone else. That way, people wouldn't be arguing about whether or not they "owe" anyone anything because there would be a tangible (well, not really tangible, but at least visible) reminder that a transaction took place.
Only problem I can foresee is that some jerks might try to spam posts or make otherwise worthless or poor quality posts to earn enough credits to commission a story/picture. I don't think any of our regulars would do this, but it's possible some unscrupulous newcomer might try to cheat the system in this way.
In that case, I think the only way to counteract that would be to make the fee prohibitively high, say 300 credits, so that it's very difficult for anyone to buy a story without getting payed for writing one.
Well, that's the first thing that came to mind anyway. What does everyone else think of this system?
This has some good, and some bad potential. I mean, what is some artists or authors shirk off? Will they be "reminded" in a non-mafioso manner that the transaction need to be completed?
Hmmmm...you make a good point. Maybe there could be like, a half now, half later arrangement? Or actually, it would probably be easier to have the author do the story first, that way if they became really busy with something else like work or school, they could break off without any hard feelings. Then, when the story was done they would get the credits. If the buyer didn't pay up after the commission was complete, the moderators could handle it with fines, suspension, etc. I think it would be easier to make people pay, rather than to make people write stories.
I was thinking that as I read this thread, commissions for stories, pictures, etc would be a nice way to spend credits. Of we'd have to agree on a universal 'cost/price tag' for certain things (Like a *insert #word long story). It certainly would be a nice way to encourage the more lazy members to at least post in the threads, since I wouldn't be surprised if more than half of them have got ideas they want us to look at.
well credits are now given for new stories and chapters.
credits for reviews and the interactive storys posts be added soon
Perhaps we can start establishing the prices by working out an exchange rate from pictures to stories? Because...I want one and I'll draw you whatever you want. Perhaps a picture is literally worth a thousand words? :p
Well that's certainly an idea, you pay so and so number of credits for the story, the author makes it, thus getting a good bonus to the amount given for the commission, then they exchange a fair fee to an artist for the picture. Thus no one is suddenly draining their bank dry and are already making a fair deal out of it.
At the same time, it would be cool to set up a price range for stories by their length. Given that most of us probably don't always bother to count the number of words *I don't know until I've finished something, :P* But if someone wants a story that long *like 5-8 pages in word* then it's priced at X-amount of creds; whereas something shorter would be obviously cheaper. And of course finer details like characters from certain manga, anime, or game, and certain plot details would require a certain fee.
It is kinda neat, the only other site I've seen do a semi-rpg thing is that G-E-Hentai site, and I didn't even realize it had things like monster encounters until a little while ago.
Hm...the only thing is that both parties would need enough credits to begin with. It almost seems it'd be easier to just arrange an exchange outside of the system.
btw if anyone wants to know what the site gives, it's you get 10 credits for a new story, and 8 for a new chapter,
then it gives .005 per character(not including html tags or extra spaces).
so for example a new story with 2500 or so words, so lets multiply that by 5 to approx characters (most words are likely to be at lest 4 letters then of course all the spaces between the words, so 5) thats 12500 characters approximately.
so we have
new story: 10
characters: 12500 * .005 = 62.50
total : 72.50
so this story would have got over 72.50 (there's probably about 1 or 2 or more thousand characters (ex. one story on here with 2542 words has about 14641 characters))
and yeah I didn't realize the monster encounters things until a couple months ago. I could probably look into adding more rpg-like stuff anyone wants
Quote from: Duce on August 12, 2009, 04:09:25 PM
and yeah I didn't realize the monster encounters things until a couple months ago. I could probably look into adding more rpg-like stuff anyone wants
It would be pretty cool, like whenever someone is bored, they fight monster *which we could all chip in creative names* For example, a giantess appears, and for goofy humor, she could poop on you *instant 9000 damage done! :P* But this would make for another fun way for people to earn credits, granted maybe not as much as a story *at least not as quick* but that way, people who want a commission, but don't do much can earn the necessary amount to make the request. And it'd be fun to level up in a simple rpg way. Granted, most of us regulars would probably already be nearly lv. 10 or more *Anime Lover alone would be nearly 20 with the amount of stuff he's done! :-[*
Since this topic has died down, let's do something to liven it up a bit.
There's been some talk about offering commissions, but I'm not sure if anyone has actually agreed to participate. So, if not, I'll be the first. However, since it takes me forever to finish a story, I'd rather offer to do art commissions.
I guess we should try to decide whether there will be a set "fee" for commissions, or if artists and writers will just determine their own fees. What does everyone think?
Well, if I had to name a price for my art it'd be two pictures for one story. Or like...one picture with two characters in it. However...I don't know if I'd want to do art for non-story goods. :P
I know there's not much of anything to do with gold at the moment, but the more people who offer their work in exchange for gold, the more useful it will be. And, if people find out they can get commissions for gold, maybe that will encourage more forum participation (and story reviews, if Duce gets it set up where writing reviews gets you gold).
Of course, I'd be willing to do art and story trades, as well. But I'm specifically looking for suggestions as to what people think would be fair prices for art in gold.
Well a nice trade certainly would be two pics for a story, and some gold to to the artist as well. For straight commisions *somebody wanting a story* I would guess maybe a 100 gold for the set-up then from there an agreement can be made for other things *suggestions, certain plot details, etc*.
But yea, gold for every review would certainly get the lazier/nonactive members up and running when they realize that they can then request a story through gold exchange.
well right now the gold/credits are a bit unstable(too easy to get and stuff) with the battle system.
but I think I will most likely split it up, so theres 2 sets of money, site & battle, may the the site money nyo coins or something like that, and later on there be a way to exchange one for the other.
Quote from: Duce on September 19, 2009, 11:16:58 PM
well right now the gold/credits are a bit unstable(too easy to get and stuff) with the battle system.
but I think I will most likely split it up, so theres 2 sets of money, site & battle, may the the site money nyo coins or something like that, and later on there be a way to exchange one for the other.
Yea, that could work. Battle Gold (or just Gold) and Nyou points (or coins) would work.
I worked on the fiction part of site with the points a lot yesterday, so now it makes a note of how much you get when you post a fic or review, also points for reviews working now too!
so post Reviews to the fics, like maybe my fics lol
NO! :P Just kidding, of course I'll review whatever you got.
Hopefully this'll get some of the lurkers in gear since I'm sure plenty of 'em would love to make requests with Micro and LivingInfinate.
well now I've it working for the Interactive Stories!
Quote from: OrpheumZero on October 21, 2009, 10:25:52 PM
NO! :P Just kidding, of course I'll review whatever you got.
Hopefully this'll get some of the lurkers in gear since I'm sure plenty of 'em would love to make requests with Micro and LivingInfinate.
actually I think your the only one that actually have reviewed my fics
btw I'm thinking about posting a chapter to a fic I've been working on.
it's actually the second part of the very first fic I ever did.
As much as I like Duce for what he does, I have a hard time thinking of him as a fanfic writer. xD :P
lol whys that?
Quote from: Duce on October 22, 2009, 03:42:36 AM
lol whys that?
^ that's a good example right there. But to be honest, I see you as a "Man behind the scenes" sorta guy... not someone who actually appears on camera.
Too many years, I think, of seeing you work techie stuff. :P
Quote from: Duce on October 21, 2009, 11:53:26 PM
well now I've it working for the Interactive Stories!
actually I think your the only one that actually have reviewed my fics
btw I'm thinking about posting a chapter to a fic I've been working on.
it's actually the second part of the very first fic I ever did.
Wait. A follow-up to Binding Desperation? That'd be pretty awesome, since it's proably one of the best featuring Rika/Ruki since well... heck I think I'm the only other person to use Rika in a story. :P
Quote from: OrpheumZero on October 22, 2009, 09:39:15 PM
Wait. A follow-up to Binding Desperation? That'd be pretty awesome, since it's proably one of the best featuring Rika/Ruki since well... heck I think I'm the only other person to use Rika in a story. :P
well thanks but actually it's part of a follow-up to a different fic, I lost it a long time ago, though it was more of a short prologue than a fic really and not really needed.
though I probably could use some help grammar and format.
Well I'd be willing to help with that.